No.2901
>>2900Also, if Lizmin feels the need to remove this post at any time, feel free. I kind of want this to be a temporary thread anyways.
No.2902
I think reptilians main concerns should be saving things you like, a lot of torrent sites are going private, shutting down, and older things slowly losing seeders.
Other wise i'm not to affected, I've got this site and a few others I lurk and I've started seeing this degradation as popcorn fuel since I kind of want things to break down now.
No.2903
>>2902>I've started seeing this degradation as popcorn fuel since I kind of want things to break down nowThis is kind of a view I have taken as well, but it still kind of bothers me to see just how much corporations and normalfags have screwed up the internet. I personally believe that we will see a reemergence of the "wild west" internet within our lifetime, but even then there are still too many normalfags on the internet and they are invading our territories.
No.2906
>4chan splits into two domains thus causing the official death of 4chan
>4chan's split causes an exodus of unfunny 12 year olds to invade some IBs I used to enjoy
I'm sorry, but someone give me a quick rundown on how exactly this resulted from just a split?
No.2907
>>2903I'm not sure how you could reignite the wildwest feel of the old internet, I think the closest we'd get is segregated irc or discord like groups where you have people initiated in, or instead of private trackers private imageboards become more commonplace.
>>2906Not the biggest reason imo, but essentially if you go by name only 4chan has no blue boards now.
4channel is the actual discussion/hobby board now.
Otherwise the downfall has been perpetual from simply the internet getting more popular, anonymous making it notorious, the election, youtube channels reading greentext, news coverage etc.
It's to popular to not have a statistically normal userbase instead of the eccentrics of old.
No.2914
>>2903>reemergence of the "wild west" internet within our lifetimeThis could only happen with the downfall of the major social media sites (God willing).
No.2918
>>2914Facebook is unironically losing users, though it'll just be replaced by youtube, reddit, and other sites.
It's like a big bang population wise, everyone started at facebook, and slowly your grandma will be posting cat videos on 8chan.
No.2920
>>2914A few activist groups have talked about suing certain social media giants like facebook and twitter for violation of free speech. Even if this doesn't cause the downfall of these websites, it will force them to treat users more fairly. That and I'm sure the fact that they are monopolies will be brought into question and they will be forced to compete with other social media startups instead of crushing them like they are now.
Honestly, I kind of don't want the social media giants to fall, because it currently serves as a containment for normalfags so they don't invade our spaces.
No.2925
>>2920>suing certain social media giants like facebook and twitter for violation of free speechAnd Germany is fining because facebook and twitter aren't violating enough.
>they are monopoliesMicrosoft survived a massive anti-trust lawsuit. I'm sure the social media giants will as well. They can afford small armies of lawyers.
>I kind of don't want the social media giants to fallWell I do, desperately. I HATE social media.
>containment for normalfagsNormies will never get into sites like this. They like sites that feed their egos, not ones that are anonymous.
No.2967
I think it won't just be the real life warm-bloods who get worse. I think that people on imageboards are going to be increasingly no fun allowed. Because of how the internet has changed, I think that a lot of people are a bit too invested into internet identity and it extends to imageboards too. I'm not talking about 'I'm a lizard, I post on lizchan' here, but rather that people feel the need to place themselves in a 'cool' group within an imageboard. It's kind of annoying how in many places you just can't talk about some things without a bunch of spastics jumping down your throat for e-cred. It's a continuation of something I've noticed though rather than a new development, even a few years ago I was noticing that it was getting trickier in some places to discuss even things as harmless as video games without someone needing to jack themselves off for how much they hate modern games for example.
It wouldn't be too bad except these people are the ones who take over boards and take a place where lots of different people could post about lots of different things with different points of view and turn it into a place where lots of people can say the exact same thing every day until the site dies.
No.2969
>>2967>I think that a lot of people are a bit too invested into internet identityIronically enough, wanting to identify yourself with a group makes the group go to shit. Take 4chan for example. Around 2013 or so, people who used 4chan acted like they were part of some exclusive cool kids club. Then gradually over time, more and more people wanted in on this "cool kids club" and now the website is so over saturated with redditors and kids that used to post on Vine.
>it extends to imageboards too This irritates me a bit. I remember there was a thread on 4chan a few years ago where someone asked why the users thought 4chan was so great and someone made the best response (I'm probably going to butcher this a bit but whatever): "It's the sense of freedom. If you want to deny the holocaust in one thread and talk about Nichijou in another you can. And freely."
But it seems as though modern 4chan doesn't have that mindset. To them, if you deny the holocaust, you HAVE to be a part of /pol/ and nothing else. If you want to talk about Nichijou you HAVE to be a part of /a/ and nothing else. It's almost like modern 4chan users (newfags) forgot that they are on an anonymous imageboard where no one knows who they are, therefore they shouldn't care what "group" you identify yourself with because it's not attached to your name or anything. But no, expressive freedom is prohibited now, and you MUST bring that collectivist mindset everywhere you go. You think the internet is about having fun? NO! The internet is for SRS BSNS only!
No.2970
>>2969 >Around 2013 or so, people who used 4chan acted like they were part of some exclusive cool kids club.>You think the internet is about having fun? NO! The internet is for SRS BSNS only!Hit the nail on the head with them ones. The moment I know to ditch somewhere is when non-critical things start getting enforced. There are places with very knowledgeable people who happily post about all sorts of things for the fun of it, even technical and very informative stuff (particularly IT guys here, to a borderline computer illiterate like myself, it's pretty cool to read). I've seen it again and again and nearly every time it goes to peoples' heads though and they start to disparage having fun because it's not up to their standards, and then nobody posts anymore because it's now boring and they've been boxed into a little area of ideas that are 'good enough' for the tryhards who are often the new people to a site. Expressive freedom as you say. Mostly posted what I did because it's something that we should be on the watch for. It's very easy to distance ourselves from the mainstream internet users and forget that we're shitting in our own bowl too. Not saying here specifically, but just anonymous imageboards in general.
No.2988
>>2967You realize you've just described the truwiz phenomenon, right?
>>2969The cliques are too large to be ignored now. It was never going to be the same after the election. Chances are the guy is /pol/ and nothing else. Anime was sacrificed on the altar of activism.
No.2990
>>2988>truwizI think that it's the section most of us are familiar with, but I've also seen it on unaffiliated imageboards. It's bigger than just the usual truwiz faggotry. I dunno what precisely to call it, so it serves to describe the phenomenon within the post-wizardchan sphere but I also don't want to give too much of an impression that it's limited to that sphere because it isn't.
No.3087
Id like to imagine its 2020 right now so i dont have to deal with it when it really comes
No.3089
>>2967I think its all this social posturing thats done in real life thats ingrained in todays generation. Take idolization of youtubers. Remember when making a living off youtube was starting out and youd have all these really essentric norms just doing mundane things (vlogs, showing off stuff) for millions of views? I think the reason they got millions of views is because they give off a sense of popularity/fame, and they idolize that and are willing to waste time looking at them existing. Maybe its similar to why some of them watch reality tv shows. Then you have the 3d entertainment industry, which is just idolizing singers and movie actors, like making it seem news worthy when some famous person goes out for a walk and buys something from a store. You could even say hype culture from the videogame industry feeds on this sense of wanting to be hip and popular. This entire warmblood culture of wanting to be popular might even be something thats genetically ingrained into them. I think this led to this lower quality of posting on the internet, as it became less about normal/"mundane" discussion and more about wanting to fit in with the popular/sensational view of the niche.
No.3090
>>FOSTA gets signed into law, thus causing a snowball effect on internet censorship
I don't live in the US, how does a law about sex trafficking lead to internet censorship?
>>Chads and Stacies have figured out how to use Sony Vegas (or at least Sony Vegas is so dumbed down now) and are now becoming top youtubers
YouTube was never a safe haven for nerds or outcasts to begin with.
>>Celebrities and mumble rappers claim to "love" anime, thus causing an influx of Negroes and Stacies in anime communities thinking they are cool
Who cares? They drop everything they latch onto after 5 minutes when something trendier shows up, the anime thing is momentary.
>>4chan splits into two domains thus causing the official death of 4chan
Wasn't it officially dead when that gook bought it? Again, it hasn't been a good place to be in for years.
>>4chan's split causes an exodus of unfunny 12 year olds to invade some IBs I used to enjoy
I doubt any 12 year olds browse imageboards, let alone imageboards as obscure as this one.
No.3092
>>3089>warmblood culture of wanting to be popular might even be something thats genetically ingrainedWarmies are obsessed with moving up their stupid hierarchies. Rex watches sportsball and imagines himself being that star athlete chasing a ball, while Stacy watches reality tv shows and imagines herself as that spoiled slut going on a shopping spree.
No.3103
Social media and the Zoomers obsessed with it ruined the internet.
No.3105
>>3089>which is just idolizing singers and movie actorsI've been stalking /tv/ boards today looking for movie recommendations and know exactly what you're talking about. It's all just celebrity worship and /pol/ bait.
I'll see 3 threads about celebrity armpits before I see one horror movie thread.
No.3106
>>3103I've noticed that a lot of boomers use social media too. They like to use facebook to post photos of things like their various RV trips across America.
No.3151
>>3106Yes, but they usually stick to their own corner of the internet. My problem is that Zoomers have hijacked internet and meme culture. This wouldn't bother me so much if it wasn't for the fact that these things influence society now. There are actually articles out there talking about how internet memes "defined a generation" or how silly things like YTPs are "works of postmodern art". And then if you have ever watched any of these IRL streamers
don't judge me you will see these trendy zoomer Chads wearing pepe and ahegao sweatshirts in LA to show off how "le quirky XD" they are.
No.3152
>>3106(cont.) I think the most unsettling example of all of this is that it is leading to this dangerous trend of corporations being humanized. How many times have you personally seen people praising Wendy's or Hostess for having "dank" twitter accounts? I remember a couple of years back, Wendy's made this ad that used internet memes in it and everyone flipped their shit, but apparently when they do it now, it's perfectly fine. This is leading to people having actual conversations on twitter with fatcat CEOs (ex: "bruh, Wendy's just roasted me on twitter. Imma get a double baconator lol") not realizing that this is all an advertising campaign. I find this example particularly disturbing because this is a culture that WE created that is now being used against us.
This trend of internet culture and real life merging is all a plot by big tech to make you submissive and accepting to the upcoming cyberpunk dystopia. Or at least that's the way I see it, and it bothers the living hell out of me.
I really hope a day will come where the internet will go back to being the entertaining wild west it used to be. Where people who were addicted to it could log on and have fun without politics and social media bullshit getting in the way. But for now, we have to just wade it out. At least we still have Gondola
for now.
No.3153
>>3152>corporations being humanizedI forget where I heard his, but I remember a saying about small businesses wanting to look big and big businesses wanting to look small.
No.3159
>>3155$1000 a month isn't enough UBI bucks
No.3160
>>3159None will ever be enough. Each time it happens, the effective value of a dollar decreases due to supply increase, and just upping the payments just leads to hyperinflation in the long run. It gets uglier when you consider what happens when the 8th wonder of the world, compound interest, racked up during hyperinflation settles into a recovering economy. Interest being paid on interest of hyperinflated currency but now you're having to pay a snowballing debt with a currency where it is a far greater investment of buying power, where that enormous figure is in essence maybe twice or even more times more effective value than it was when calculated. It gets economically apocalyptic in other words.
Campaigning for the abolition of fiat is the most important step if you want UBI, and unfortunately it's one that is often ignored in favour of continuing to act like it's free money when you're just paying for it with the inflation tax instead.
No.3163
>>3160I guess the case Yang is making is the US government can handle the costs of paying out dividends, and he might have a point. If you look at the costs of entitlements the country already spends a fortune on things like medicare and social security.
With automation you do run into the problem of consumers not having enough income to buy what's made and this problem does need to be solved in some way.
No.3164
>>3163Not American, but I'm of the opinion that the Fed (and my own local Reserve Bank) is a negative force on the economy. Their mandates typically ask for things that humans, and even machines cannot really do due to incredibly poor data. Attempting to manipulate the economy as they are intended to do is playing with fire when you consider that the economy is the end product of trillions of individual decisions throughout the world.
While it's possible to inflate a standard currency, it's much harder to do, and that means that while you might be numerically poorer, even those worse off have more purchasing power. I mean, the US is usually somewhere between 1.5-2.5% inflation these days, so you'll be robbed of a surprising amount of money even if things stay exactly the same. I mean, purchasing power over the past 20 years alone has significantly decreased. I think it averages to a nearly 70% increase in the price of goods and services here. That means that if I had squirrelled away money into a safe, that a good proportion of that money has effectively been stolen. Now try putting the same value in gold in the safe and check what it's worth after the same 20 year period.
Also keep in mind that inflation is not an immediate thing. Those who are aware of an imminent inflow of money are essentially getting free money, but it kicks the can down the road and everybody else has to pick it up later. That's why it's popular with government, they know when it's going to happen and can use the inflated money as free value before the symptoms of that inflation filter down into the goods and services economy. This is a big part of how they can afford a lot of those enormous expenses. That and taking on a mind-bogglingly large amount of debt.
No.3165
>>3164I guess my point is basically that they can afford to do it, but in the end, you're going to be footing the bill for your free money without realising it due to inflation robbing it of value.
No.3167
The internet started to decay since the first day it was born.
Kind of like you're starting to die the moment you're born.
No.3168
>>3165Yang said half of all Americans are already on the dole right now and the rest of the dividend can be paid for with a value added tax.
No.3175
So the year is barely halfway through and we get this:
https://twitter.com/Arbys/status/1104049390749138950.
Not only is this an example of what I mentioned in
>>3152, but people are also treating this like a gamergate esque social movement. Again, not realizing this whole thing is a publicity stunt to get you to by more curly fries.
The day internet culture stops being trendy will be the day we all have a worldwide celebration.
No.3177
>>3090>I don't live in the US, how does a law about sex trafficking lead to internet censorship?It's a long story. I would post an article talking about it, but most of the articles are defending "muh """sex wurkurs"""" so sorry. Just look around and read up on it yourself.
>YouTube was never a safe haven for nerds or outcasts to begin with.Yes, but you used to be able to find some good content. Now it's just a bunch of unfunny, shallow Chads and Stacies saying "look at me and how interesting I am" in front of a camera. It's basically what happens when you give kids participation trophies, they feel like they are the most special and important people on the planet. Add that with social media and you have a recipe for disaster. I thought Gen Z was going to be better about that stuff and not be as attention whorey as millenials but instead they turned out to be 20x worse. I just hope Gen Alpha won't get sucked in as well
but they probably will.
>Who cares? They drop everything they latch onto after 5 minutes when something trendier shows up, the anime thing is momentary.I sure hope so. I have a hard time finding a single genuine anime fan online anymore outside of imageboards. However, I genuinely fear that anime (or at least the popular ones) will be the next Marvel movies, where it becomes the most trendy thing to watch and all of the status obsessed warmies will be wearing anime t shirts in public. I do hope they move on to something else though, and fast.
No.3178
>>3177>>3175(cont.) >Wasn't it officially dead when that gook bought it?
Yes but he didn't really start fucking with it until recently.
>Again, it hasn't been a good place to be in for years.Honestly, I stopped going on it the moment mr ching chong bought it, but it's still sad to see a place you once called home be destroyed like this. Oh well, nothing lasts forever I suppose.
>I doubt any 12 year olds browse imageboards>taking the 12 year old insult this seriouslyMein gott.
Hope this clears up some things.
No.3179
>>3178O shit, replied to the wrong person. I meant
>>3090. Hehe.
No.3184
>>3175As if they need to have shitty drawings of Wendy from tumblr to get me to buy curly fries.
Not like I go out of my way to do so though, which is what they want. No.3285
>>3283>insulated from social risk by being able to adopt pre-made identitiesThis is probably why so many people feel alienated.
>In 20 years culture may be unrecognizable.I think culture is going to get completly lowbrow in the coming decades. We're already there, but we still have a long ways to go until we hit bottom. The culture will be more recognizable because it'll feed into our base instincts.
No.3286
>>3218>ghostmane>that vidWoah,please don't post things like that here
No.3288
>>3286but that video illustrated perfectly how I see the world
No.3291
>>3283>social credit technology is on the cusp of adoptionChina is already implementing it now. (or maybe they already have. I'm not sure.) I doubt it will be implemented in the west considering that everyone, even mainstream liberals like Stephen Colbert, think it's a bad thing. But I could be wrong. I mean, Andrew Yang already said that a social credit system in the US would be beneficial, so maybe we're dangerously getting close.
>Government organizations and corporations are figuring out how to successfully use memes to their advantage, both on a large scale and to affect individual behaviorI mentioned this in another post but I will say it again: I find this particularly disturbing because meme/internet culture is something that WE created and now it is being used against us.
No.3292
>>3291>>3283(cont.)
>Culture is moving towards a state where individuals are insulated from social risk by being able to adopt pre-made identities. You are no longer sold products, but lifestyles and behaviorsThis has bothered me since I was a little kid (not to the extent is does now but still). The fact that culture is being replaced with consumerism is absolutely frightening. Literally anything can be marketed as a lifestyle now and normalfags will eat it up. Hell, I'm starting to see repulsive sexual fetishes like pedophilia and incest slowly becoming accepted. Why? Because the mainstream media is promoting this stuff in entertainment and, unlike us, Normalfags can't tell the difference between fantasy and reality. I've seen plenty of normalfags on the internet brag about their incestual experiences and other acts of sexual degeneracy. Now I know why the old fucks at Fox News would get pissed at MTV for showing what they did. This stuff genuinely has a negative affect on society.
No.3293
>>3292>>3291>>3283(cont.)
>In 10 years things may be much worse than they are now. In 20 years culture may be unrecognizable.But the war is not lost. It is never to late to turn these things around. Sure the elite are winning now, but the average person is begging to wake up and realize what is going on. Look at how they freaked out when Trump got elected, or when Britain voted to leave the EU. Sure, nothing really came of those things, but it's a start. I think in the next couple of decades, you will see some things happen that you never would have imagined would. For example: I genuinely believe that sometime in the future, we will see neo nazis and Antifa join forces, because they will both realize that at the end of the day, they have one thing in common: they both hate the current establishment.
It's easy to be down and pessimistic about the things going on right now, but just keep in mind that the elite have never won in the end and they never will. Things WILL turn around.
No.3296
>>3291it will be done with more subtlety in the west, and more slowly to boot, but we will get something resembling that eventually
surveillance… either on the net or in real life, has already been wilfully accepted by the public, or perhaps it is merely resignation? not like it matters
No.3585
>>3539That's what they get for appointing a poo as their CEO. You think they would of learnt something from Microsoft's experience with Vista.
No.3586
Is the mars base - reality tv show thing still going to happen?
No.3593
>>3588>new social justiceI'm amazed that serious presidential candidates are campaigning for reparations. Something like that will crash the US economy and cause most whites to opt out of the system. I don't understand why more people can't see how insane this is.
>butthurt could implodeI think everyone, even his enemies, understands at this point that Trump is all talk. The guy can't even get a wall built.
No.3630
>>3629Eat more rats and drink more coca-cola.
No.4109
Welp, it's come out that this newest mass shooter in Texas posted his manifesto to 8chan, just like the NZ and Poway cunts. After this information came out, the public has been calling for 8chan to be shut down and for all of it's users to be "exposed" (I'm not kidding, type 8chan in to twitter and you will see thousands of these posts). They are making these sweeping generalizations to an entire website and are actively calling for the government to step in and "take care of it". And that is troubling.
And before you say "oh it's just 8chan who cares?" keep in mind that this website as well as many other IBs have been advertised on 8chan and we may be the next to get shut down, it's a slippery slope. If this continues, we will have a hell of a lot more to worry about in the future than just unfunny chads posting "dank meme compilations" on /b/. Moving to another website may not be an option anymore, and every website in the future will only be the ones that are silicon valley approved. And as long as warms can watch sitcoms on Netflix, they don't care.
And I'm not just ranting about warmbloods either, I'm also blaming these recent shooters as well. And now, in Texas, 20 innocent lives were lost, all because some sperg thought that shooting up a Walmart would trigger a "revolution", not realizing that doing so would just make everything worse for everyone. Fuck Patrick Caesarsalad or however you pronounce his fucking name.
No.4110
>>4109>8chan to be shut downI'm sure another alternative will pop up if the site ever goes down. Most of the people who use 8chan's pol probably already post on gab and vk as well.
>everything worse for everyoneI think his agenda was to accelerate the chaos because things are going to get worse in any case, so better sooner than later.
No.4111
I can't believe cripplecock would sell out his own userbase like this. What a cowardly faggot.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/04/technology/8chan-shooting-manifesto.html No.4112
And now 8chan will be down for two days
If you see any bad shitposts you know why
No.4114
>>4111He's a christcuck now, what did you expect?
No.4116
>>4114Even with him being a Christian I'm pretty sure it says in the Bible to not be a lying hypocrite and a sellout Judas.
No.4117
>>4111The cripple already betrayed wizardchan, he's a scoundrel
No.4118
>>4117He's taking treason to new heights this time. He's backstabbed millions of people with that article. I can't see him ever living this one down.
No.4119
>>4118not like anyone visits him anyways
No.4120
i am not worried. shutting down imageboards is like trying to shut down online piracy: cut one and two more popp up somewhere else, like a hydra. it is only a temporary setback, there are copies either way and people just learn from their mistakes to be more obscure in the future
No.4126
>>4119I'm sure he's been getting visits from members of leading jewish organizations recently, coming to tell him what a good goy he is.
No.4131
>>4130wtf that's me, the morally outstanding and vigilant fatliz, remove this post.
No.4132
>>4131Cripple can't be a fatliz, he lost his cold blood. He's nothing but a lonely miserable fatass who sold his soul to the jews.
No.4135
>>4132I've never known much about the guy, how'd he get crippled and why'd he disown the site? what caused his personality change, Media attention?
No.4139
>>4135>how'd he get crippledSome bone genetic thing, who cares.
>why'd he disown the siteProbably for money and liability reasons. When you have no principles it's easy to sell people out.
>what caused his personality change, Media attention?He's always been a vile, no good, piece of shit. Back when he was a nobody admin on wizardchan he use to hang out in the chatroom bullying the sites other users. Then one day a whore wandered into the chatroom. He proceeded to secretly hook up with her, lost his virginity, rubbed it in everyone's faces that he could get laid, then bailed on the site and started 8chan.
No.4140
>>4135>how'd he get crippledHe has brittle bone disease
>why'd he disown the site?Cripple cried about how he couldnt afford server space he would abuse his userbase by milking donations and when people were calling him out on it, he sold it to jim watkins so jim can run the site and cover the server costs in exchange cripple would be hired to be part of the admin team . Cripple wasnt interested in running the site anymore and would bicker with jim who technically
and rightfully mind you cripple sold legally it to him owned it, so he left of his own volition. Since then on its been about cripplekike being butthurt trying to sabotage the site he made so he can satisfy his grudge and get back at jim.
>what caused his personality changeSoy
not even joking>Media attention?Yes hes a genetic dud and is old news he hasnt made anything of note since and 8chan was the only noteworthy thing hes made.
No.6119
God damn not even the bleakest posts here could predict 2020
>WW3 almost happening
>Global pandemic that sees many countries force people to stay indoors
>Nogs chimping out en masse globally
>Global recession
>Imageboards dying from a combination of 8chan's death and the potential of the webring destroyed by discord faggots
>US elections so everything becoming stupidly political again like 2016
No.6122
>>6119>Global pandemic that sees many countries force people to stay indoorsLets be honest though, the pandemic is completely fake. I was fooled by it for the first few months (please forgive me for all the panicked posts I made on the old site, I'm prone to paranoia), but after looking at the numbers I seen that it was only really killing geriatrics who were already at deaths door.
I can't understand why the elites are trying to terrorize the public like they're doing, with the fucking masks and everything. Maybe it has to do with the US election, I don't know.
No.7488
>>2900So far the 2020s have been shit
From the kung flu virus
To the official planet ape chimp outs
And more bullshit yeah I think human civilization is fucked
