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1719
Playing advance wars on a gba emulator. I shun modern games.
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1723
fresh one for the gamers
https://puu.sh/DCqcr.webm
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1724
>>1721>>1723>otakugirlThat name had better be a joke. Also fuck you for playing pozwatch.
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1754
Excited for E3.
Think I'm going to take a drink every time a remake is announced or advertised.
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1756
>>1751>>1724rudelizzies
Anywho… as the gamers say : - "another day, another poggers";
http://puu.sh/DCSmD.webm
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1757
>>1756>look look I play in QP, press one button and get POTG!pitiful attention whoring,keep it up
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1762
>>1722>try out Witcher 3 because I heard that Witcher man stays true to mythology or something>neat intro I guess>combat is alright>Witcher man is cool>but there's lots of cutscenes>Witcher man constantly talks about how bad war is, feels really forced>first mission has a guy who tells you fucked some guy who ended up hanging himself because woe is me I'm a faggot, has nothing to do with the mission>Lots of cutscenes and talking, at least there's no niggers stuck in there>still has a good atmosphere and I liked hunting down monsters and stuff with Witcher man's kitty eyes>overall enjoying it>looking forward to what might be a decent game>joke's on me because the crack or something didn't work and I got a notification from my isp saying that I had downloaded copyrighted material>this has never happened before with anything I've downloadedJust fuck my download up. Hopefully I just got unlucky with that one download and the others are alright, I downloaded the "Witcher 3: Wild Hunt GOTY (GOG)" one in case any other liz wants to try downloading from here. Hopefully Witcher man makes a torrent that works next time.
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1765
>>1762Your ISP can't really do anything to you other than send you threatening letters. If it bothers you get a VPN.
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1812
Got a big poggie for ya'll liz
https://puu.sh/DGsVN.webm
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1823
>>1820I'm so glad I gave up on modern gaming.
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1824
>>1820This whole fucking event is a meme. I might get that watchdogs game to do a 100% grandma playthrough.
Imagine, a world where you can be a grandma in a videogame. Truly breathtaking.
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1826
>>1823what you don't like downloading 100gb remakes, full priced games with pay to win elements, Epic launcher exclusives and never ending series making any ending you get near worthless?
>>1824Hope you can play as grandpas so I can roleplay as my future geriatric self traversing the post millennial dystopia.
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1827
>>1826>what you don't likeI'd sooner fire up the good ol' Chinese emulator device and play a life time supply of classic game roms (with some mild screen tearing). I won't let any game company turn me into a paypig.
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1854
>>1842>teased with 1/100th of some shitty mmo gameI would prefer to play with a deck of cards.
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1871
Project diva, demon souls, and persona 5 all run amazingly on RPCS3.
Gonno be a good week.
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2021
>>2020I just noticed, the art looks oddly wide compared to the game
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2022
>>2021May have scaled differently on ps2 originally, I'm running it at 16:9 7990x12800.
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2023
>>2022Total waste of power
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2026
>>20257/10
wow I can smell the dust from here. oh wait thats from my pc
>>2023relatable
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2031
>>2025I'm surprised that there aren't any long forgotten food wrappers in there.
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2039
I finished persona 3 yesterday, how should I combat the emptiness I now feel? what are some good time sinks, can be another jrpg.
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2044
>>2043okay but only because you told me to
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2046
>>2025RIP
Died today for no reason at all. Temps were good and low.
Bios reset did nothing.
Im guessing that mobo died because it powers some usb but not all. No bootscreen etc
Gonna get it on warranty aaaaa
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2048
>>2046Godspeed liz, how long have you had the rig?
>>2043I died to the boss on the 5th floor flip this going back to farmville
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2052
>>2046>get it on warrantyGood goy, always pay the full warranty markup on your products. The retail jew thanks you. You won't lose your receipts or anything, that never happens tehehe
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2061
>>20485 months
I was cleaning cpu when I took it out a little of thermal paste went to holes for pins.
I have no idea how, welp rip my warranty
>>2052it must have been inside job
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2111
Got any good DS recommendations? I'm disappointed to find that the final 2 games in the Layton prequels are 3DS only and was looking for something else instead. Not bothered what genre
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2112
>>2111I haven't played many ds games, maybe 999, bravely default or Strange journey.
There are always comfy time wasters like Pokemon, Harvest moon or animal crossing.
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2113
>>2111Never owed a DS but I heard the system had some really good tower defense games on it.
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2171
>>2160I hope that computer is running on a celeron processor. You can't be a true lizard unless your computer runs on a celeron or lower cpu.
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2200
>>2197What's wrong goy, don't you have any friends to play with?
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2201
>>2200of course i have friends, person i conveniently don't have to prove things too, of course.
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2203
>>2162I don't play videogames but DOOM is an absolute classic.
I suck at it, but its still fun to play
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2207
>>2203>spoilerHow so? You're playing with a keyboard? Doom is incredibly easy with mouse movement even in the formerly hardest difficulty, biggest thing you have to take care of is item management.
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2208
>>2207I'm playing with the keyboard, and am fairly proficient with it. I suck because aside from a handful of DS games (and a few old flash web games) I haven't played any videogames so I'm still very new to them. I play DOOM as if I was actually there, i.e carefully clearing each room from as far away as possible. It takes time but it's still fun.
I play on Hurt Me Plenty difficulty though, I'm not a complete pussy
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2217
>>2216I really did, I got to the third chapter, but had to give my computer away to my parents because I was behaving too erratically. I'll come back to it eventually, the archviles spook me.
Plus I want to try HDoom one day
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2220
>>2217>give my computer away to my parentsinconsiderate bastards
>HDoom nice. remember to have a box of tissues nearby while you play
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2229
Anyone WoW classic?
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2233
>>2229I've tried it but I fail to notice the difference with vanilla private servers to be honest except for graphical features.
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2246
Any lizards try VR?
Thinking of picking up a cheaper version over black friday.
No.
2248
>>2246>overpriced>no games>motion sicknessDo
nt do it
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2249
>>2248Yea no one supports win 7 anymore either so screw that.
I want so badly to beable to escape to other worlds.
I'll just focus on collecting media for the next few years, and when it cheapens i'll have everything I need for it already.
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2250
>>2249>I want so badly to beable to escape to other worlds.I'll try being a hobo again if I don't get a job before December. It certainly gives that feeling.
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>>2252This might be lore friendly being the future and all, anime may have been made real.
Might as well add the monster girl and anime character mods for proprieties sake.
I used to install the working prisoners mod and make my melanoid war slaves pick cotton for cash while expanding my cult and collecting packs of weaponized animals.
Very pleasant game.
Needs more late game optimization and z levels though.
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2259
Well I have no mouse so I ended up playing Doom with keyboard only and goddamn is it hard! Mouse movement really made it easier, ended up dying on the third difficulty.
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2262
>>2261He doesn't even post this shit chronologically, used to spam those some time ago.
I hope he dies miserably
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2264
do you have the original image on the background?
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2270
>>2265Aw yeeeeeee! I'll put the girl next to the hot cockacocka
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2275
>>2270Did you just make a reference?
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2277
>>2270I was thinking about that the other day, its a bit weird to see it posted.
You fucking reading my thoughts again, glow in the dark lizzie?
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2278
>>2275He was referencing an ebin post from 8chan's /v9k/.
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2282
http://www.aidungeon.io/This would be pretty great with some more context consistency and if it didn't just fucking crash when you get into a story. I was a peasant tending to the fields when some bandits killed my father, I went after them to avenge him and killed one.
Then I tried to set a trap with barrels of wine, and somehow the game took that as "You kill the bandits by forcing them to drink the barrels of wine"
Then it crashed.
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2283
>>228210/10 became a wizard, summoned an army of skeletons and then a daemonette waifu who proceeded to conquer the world before i had time to take a single city, proclaimed myself Holy Roman Emperor married aforementioned demon waifu and then built a Imperial palace filled with statues and paintings of my demon waifu
although, like you said the AI needs a bit more consistency and crashes are fairly common
give it a couple years and we may have a infinite source of autism on our hands
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2286
>>2285Tried one game not that demanding on few distros.
Had 6 times less fps making it hardly playable, tried every fix and it didn't change anything.
Not to mention it was pain in the ass to set it up.
What distro are you on? If it's ubuntu I'm gonna puke
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2289
>>2286It's Linux Mint which is technically ubuntu, but I didn't make the hop just to be a poseur, the PATH variable in windows didn't work so I decided to change operative system.
>Tried one game not that demanding on few distros.>Had 6 times less fps making it hardly playable, tried every fix and it didn't change anything. Yeah, I think I have this with Dragon's Dogma, but frankly I only care about emulation and Clone Hero. If I get to play something else, that's ok, but it's not like I was playing too much vidya lately.
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2298
>need to have a jewgle account to run it
Fuck you, how do I build this and run it locally?
No.
2299
This post
>>2298 was meant for this other post
>>2282
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2300
>>2298With a server as beefy as googles, so you probably can't. It's not to great at the moment anyways, though I have went back a few times out of intrigue.
Just make a fake account, it's not like google doesn't have your IP/location already if you've ever used it.
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2303
>>2301There's an option to skip, at least I've never had to use real information.
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2421
>>2283https://pastebin.com/wAhHMPPwI like how it went from me tending the fields, to a happy ending, to a guy brutally stabbing a woman in the eye with a knife and everyone yelling at her.
Traumatized / 10.
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2423
>>2421>first thing liz does when forcibly married is attack himselfthis fits the lore
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2539
>>2423lol. I didn't even think about that. I just hit myself to see what happened.
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2601
Just finished A Hat in Time. It was good.
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2679
>>2678Servers in so?me places are no? lo?nger working, so? I have to? get into? american servers instead. Takes fro?m 10 to? half an ho?ur to? find matches, but the game is go?o?d eno?ugh to? wait them.
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2680
>>2679ahahahha my keybo?ard is retarded
No.
2681
ooooo
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2682
Never thought i'd get so addicted to this game
>>2679It's weird that titan fall didn't get that big, almost as sad as the death of hawken.
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2684
>>2682>hawkenThat was comfy game, used to play it a lot then my laptop broke.
What killed it? I don't remember the details but wasn't it kinda p2w?
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2685
>>2684Really weird situation, I think they started out with a shoe string budget and made most of the game with that alone, then they acquired a ton of backing cash, development progress slowed, they changed the gameplay pretty haphazardly and made their loyal players less able to master/ enjoy the game like they used too. It's playable on consoles still for some reason, and some people are working on getting a pirated version working.
It was pretty great from what I remember, small amount of maps and was pay2win for sure, but still fun and I kicked ass with the starter ones even.
>>2683Saddening, Mech anime is abundant but as soon as you look for vidya content outside the top down view strategy games very few are that notable.
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2727
This game looks like it could be great
>>2723>ps4 exclusivethose flippers
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2834
>>2815What?
>>2833Hell if it isn't hyped up all crazy like though. At least people will feel like they got a good use out of their new graphics cards.
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2844
I play Old School Runescape and Dwarf Fortress sometimes. I'm not even level 30 combat level in OSRS since I don't play it very often. I still have a few skills level for the guilds since I've only been admitted into the cooking guild. I'm almost ready for the crafting guild though. Just a few more levels. I'm a F2P player right now. I'll go to members when I'm ready though.
For Dwarf Fortress I'm working on steel production. I've never done steel production before and I've never used goblinite. This fortress is a great learning experience for that. I have tons of iron from the goblins and I have no reason not to make steel from it. I'm practicing my war skills slowly. I plan to get comfortable with invasions and invading before heading off to maybe pottery or glass making in another fortress. Maybe one day I'll be good at this game instead of comfortable.
>>2815Wait, that's a boy? I thought it was a girl. I really like that dress though. If anyone knows what it is, please tell me.
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2851
>>2834A pornographic RPG maker game that's actually not very bad and delivers a lot on the story department and the gameplay as well, you might want to check it out.
>>2844>Wait, that's a boy? I thought it was a girl. Well you're supposed to discover that, since this game likes throwing surprises at you. It has the undertale syndrome where if you want to talk about it you end up spoiling a lot.
If you want to check out the game here's a pastebin
https://archive.vn/I45F1>>2844
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2854
>>2851today DDD will truly begin. Thank you.
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2855
>>2854If you're planning on getting into the games I'd suggest playing BS1 >> Red Hood >> BS2. You may still not understand anything, but it seems to help with the lore just a bit.
Be sure to get all the endings from the first game before jumping into the others
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2856
Been playing Yakuza 0 and might start playing the entirety of the Yakuza series up until Yakuza 6 just because of how fun the story and substories are.
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2862
Waiting for cyberpunk, for the first time ever I bought not the cheapest gpu available.
Finally I can see 144fps(my GT 210 couldn't pass more than 60through port)in action and it's beautiful, kinda weird. It feels like time is passing faster while it isn't.
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2863
>>2862Specs liz. What are the specs on your beautiful new computer?
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2866
>>2863FX-8350
XT 5500
16gb 1600mhz
Made it from used parts few years ago, the only new thing is gpu.
It runs okayish.
Cyberpunk at this time is kinda meh. Character creation is lame.
Encountered the bug where I couldn't get to next quest because it was stuck. Loading previous saves did nothing but after committing suicide it went forward lol.
Haven't played it long enough but atm it feels boring. Huge detailed city yet not that much to do. Hopefully options expand after making some quests
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2868
>>2866A bit of an old feller I see, with its DDR3 and SATA sdd. Nothing wrong with using an early 2010s era desktop, I've got an old i3 from that era and it's still good for what I need it to do.
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2871
>>2868I've never used any good i3.
Was thinking about getting one but went after Pentium g3258 and I don't regret it.
It was comfy to OC 2 cores, 2 threads up to 4,4Ghz which was quite crazy back then.
Anyway Cyberpunk is the most shitty "RPG" I have ever played.
I don't know if the whole story is good because it got stuck in 1/4 of it.
Some weaboo is supposed to call me but he doesn't and that's all.
Others had that bug too.
One even made new character and same bug appeared lmfao. He lost like 4 hours for nothing lmfao.
Made almost every side quests and oh my, even random mmos have more depth. Only one was interesting. In rest I was fighting urge to skip talk.
If I had to point good things about this game it would be:
Few cool tracks
Some parts of the story
Architecture and flats (not graphics)
One character !! SPOILER
that gets fucking killed almost instantly SPOILER!!
EVERYTHING ELSE IS TERRIBLE
Csn some liz recommend good H 3d game?
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2872
>>2871>Pentium 20th anniversary editionIt was a good meme for its year. Before Ryzen.
No.
2873
>>2872I love my Ryzen laptop.
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2874
Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, US PSX version.
It feels like a tacked on sequel but it's really solid and does the original storyline justice. Very good late 90s Japanese urban fantasy atmosphere, the music and the graphics are oozing with nostalgia. I wish the Persona series would go back to the feel of P1/P2 but it's just impossible.
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2883
Picked up FF7 for the third time, I hope to beat it this time around. Game is a blast, wish they kept the Midgar sections a bit longer though. A whole cyberpunk FF wouldn't have been bad either
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2884
>>2883What kind of emulator are you playing it on?
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2889
>>2888I want the KFConsole.
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2890
>>2888>Why would anyone buy this worthless garbage? People that don't want to buy "gaming" pc or don't know computer stuff.
It's so much easier to plug and play than worry about scary wonders of technology.
>10GB per hourI don't know why you bring this up. Nobody with limited bandwidth is going to buy it.
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2891
>>2889At least that system heats your chicken.
>>2890>don't want to buy "gaming" pcThose people should get a switch or xbox, or even better a nvidia shield.
>I don't know why you bring this up.Because it's a retarded amount of data to be using.
>Nobody with limited bandwidth is going to buy it.I'm sure there are plenty of dumbass normies out there who will.
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2892
>>2884mednafen. It practically runs anything
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2893
>>2892Never used that one before. Looking through a list of the supported systems and looks like it's mostly emulates lower end systems, no psp, dreamcast and psp. That's too bad.
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2895
>>2893Well both Dreamcast and PSP have better standalone emulators dedicated to them already. Plus mednafen has the best Saturn emulation atm and their PSX emulation is good, not requiring any plugins.
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2896
>>2895I'm kind of partial to emuelec. Saturn emulation must be fun, there's a ton of obscure Japanese rpgs that came out for that system.
No.
2897
I have developed a love hate relationship with league of legends. I do think it is a fun game. I like it mechanically and I like the round based format of hero building. It also satisfies the competitive/ladder climbing itch.
One obvious downside is the community but I can handle that for the most part. Where it really irks me is that it is open ended. It's that type of game that you can play until you die. This makes me feel like it's a waste of time as long as there are games I am interested in that I can progress through and actually conclude. It prevents me from crossing things of lists so to speak.
I intend to leave it alongside my other activities as a constant although this bears the risk of losing skill due to lack of practice. Also I would probably have to figure out a system to moderate the amount of time spent on it to solidify its parallel status. Perhaps a set amount of games per day.
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2902
>>2897I've posted quite a lot bout league yet nobody wrote that he plays it lol
>moderate the amount of time spentI feel like only players busy with social life can pull it off.
You don't have to limit anything unless it's addiction that doesn't click with your life.
I managed to quit league for longer time like twice.
Although in the end I just switched for different game and after some time came back to league.
We probably have nothing in life to motivate us so we just spend time getting good at things that don't matter.
For me it's escape from my thoughts. You can't think when you're overloaded with things going on your screen.
The issue is that I'm doing it all the time.
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2905
>>2897I've come to realize after a period of a very long time (20+yrs of online gaming) that pretty much every online game has the same problems as LoL does. I played LoL 2 years, over 4k games played I used to do 20 matches a day.
I have been playing MHW recently and during online play, while it's not a competitive game, no rank points - I am still reminded of those past LoL-like experiences now and again where my teammates just die over and over and I cant do much to stop it (besides standing in one spot chugging potions with a wide-range skill equipped). It still gives me negative experience of having to lose and fail an objective while just being a passenger on a train.
If you are looking to quit LoL then just change your mindset about Riot games and mobas as a whole. Once you view the company and the game genre as complete trash like it is you'll eventually stop playing.Another thing is realizing you are trash at the game too and will not suddenly start ranking up and be and esports pro if you just grind it out - the sad fact is none of the esport chads had to grind out their "skill" in the game…they were just naturally better because they are genetically gifted to have better reactions and make better decisions. A bit of luck and understanding how the system worked was all that was needed for them to beat the system and play only in high ranks.
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2908
>>2907Nice, MU soon, Hopeless was announced and dingaling is teasing something. This year may be good.
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2920
Just beat Holdover. It's a hard game where you barely have enough air. You can upgrade your air meter and other stuff. You lose clothes if you get hit but no sex stuff. Really sad actually. There are two additional pictures for winning and a secret. None are too lewd sadly. The pixel titties aren't detailed enough either.
It was hard, but I'm not hard. Go for the game play if you're interested. You'll find no lewd stuff here.
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2927
>>2925Holy synchronicity, liz! I have been playing the same game on an emulator for the past few days and seeing it on herr really put a smile on my face. GT2 is also really good (progression is a bit worse though) and the Japanese version of the game has awesome music.
What's your favorite car for now? I'm really liking the Mitsubishi FTO LM and TVR Cerbera LM.
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2928
>>2927I like the Mitsubishi GTO and the Acura NSX. I liked the Mitsubishi Eclipse, the car handles well but its speed was causing me to lose races. Maybe I'll get into the second game one of these day, from my understanding it had way more laps and cars.
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2929
>>2928It has a fuckton of more races and content from what I remember, including rally races, specific races for each manufacturer and a lot more. There's so many cars in GT2 that it feels like collecting pokemons lol
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2941
>>2855I've started to play. Is there any more dialogue from immediately killing leaf or is it impossible to do so? Are candies important?
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2942
>>2941Finally did it. I killed her. Here's the message. Also candies can be farmed so no.
She's kind of unlikable but not to her own fault. The creator prevents any meaningful connection by putting her on a pedestal. I can't rape her and it was really hard to defeat her. It feels when you put a character on that pedestal you take away and connection. I can be killed and possibly raped in this game. I can't make that connection with this fairy. I don't want to know her now. I spent most of my journey alone and she's probably unneeded. I leveled up so much and explored so much that she couldn't have existed and it wouldn't have made a difference.
I'm going to find different companions that I can relate to. I don't need her and I don't want her.
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2944
>>2943I didn't read full and tried to not look on pics but shouldn't ya spoiler stuff?
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2945
>>2944I considered it. It's non-essential information that's completely voluntary. It's an Easter egg that if I had known I would not have bothered going through so much to find it out.
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3018
gaming is so boring now everything is literally the same shit pumped out every fucking year
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3019
>>3018I have a hard time believing you have enough time to go through all the games released in a year to say that.
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3021
>>3019name one game right now that you enjoy
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3108
I've been giving Prototype 2 a try. It's good so far, but I haven't played for more than an hour. I might pick up Skyrim again to finally finish it. Also, since it's spooky season, I'll try to play some Halloween-type games and games that I started, but haven't finished around this time. Should be fun.
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3109
>>3108>Prototype 2Great game, give it more time :D
It only gets better I promise
Have fun!
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3127
You ever notice how, in Minecraft, you can make a castle out of one material, like stone, and it'll look ugly, but castles IRL made out of one material, like stone, still looks good? Same for towers. Sometimes, I think Minecraft's just ugly. lol. The mods with the different types of stone are pretty, though.
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3129
>>3127>and it'll look uglyThat's my experience with every build.
Haven't played in a long time
I wish lizchan had it's own Minecraft server.
Would go there every day.
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3133
>>3128meh. The design's fine, but even the stone bricks don't look very good. I'm happy that multiple variations of stone exist, at least. Your castle kinda reminds me of the castles of the arcade game "Rampart".
No.
3139
#21 The World is one of my favorite surreal games by far. I can't find the image that had a bunch of surreal games, but a wiz posted it, and I had gone through a lot of the games. Good memories.
No.
3140
Loading a bunch of PS1 games tomy 3ds
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3143
Anyone looking forward to play that Palworld thing?
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3144
nvm apparently it became normielite. i thought it'd have a worse rep.
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3145
>>3143The premise sounds fun. I'm not a gamer though.
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3146
I discovered fire emblem recently and am addicted
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3147
>>3146which ones have you played?
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3148
>>3147played through Blazing Blade twice and I'm half way through Sacred Stones. when I played through Blazing Blade the second time I let my charters die (female ones intentionally) with no reset and it made the game so much more enjoyable
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3149
>>3148the gba games are great entries into the series. if you're after a challenge check out the binding blade, iirc normal mode is roughly equivalent to sacred stones hard mode.
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3151
>>3149next up is the old snes ones and I'll work my way to Binding Blade. Sacred Stones is fun but too easy, I'm looking forward to more difficulty
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3152
>>3151playing them blind?
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3153
>>3152nah I was playing like a retard until I watched some videos of other people playing the game
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3154
>>3153heh not going to judge you as I couldn't resist looking up info online as I was playing them.
so i guess you already know the snes games have a lot of hidden stuff that can make them easier in the long run. one in particular is full of this sort of unforgiving unpredictable bs that may get you to start over, it's very fun once you have it figured out and master the mechanics but an exercise in frustration when you don't.
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3155
>>3154>I couldn't resist looking up info you kind of have to if you ever want to find things like the secret shops
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3167
I just 100% Tony Hawk Pro Skater.
Ended up downloading a bunch SNES and PS1 roms but I might just try to 100% THPS2 instead. I want to reach Skate Heaven.
Also, it's impressive how the second game runs way better on my 3DS given it's a more modern game. It blows my mind.
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3173
>>3167Damn its weird you say this, I just finished 100%'ing THPS2 and am working my way thru THPS3 now. 3 is my fav, then Underground 1, then probably 2, 4 although Alcatraz from 4 is my fav level in the whole series. Including finding all gaps, Skate Heaven was a real slog at times gap hunting but I did it reddit :)
I hope you have a good comfy time with playing it anon
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3174
>>3173>gap hunting The fuck you mean Gap Hunting?!?!?
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3175
>>3174??
Finding all the gaps for the gap checklist
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3177
>>3175It's not necessary for getting Skate Heaven from what I read
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>>3177Doing them all unlocks Trixie the last secret char but you only have to do them for all the regular career mode levels. Finished 100% THPS3 today also. Taking a break from vidya gaem for a while
